The Fear of God: Green Room

3 Aug

In this episode, Reed and Nathan discuss Jeremy Saulnier’s Green Room.

2 Responses to “The Fear of God: Green Room”

  1. W. David Lichty August 4, 2017 at 9:22 am #

    The monster question, do we become the monster when we fight the monster, or when we fight back using its tools, needs to factor in the difference between methods and intent. The situation was imposed on us by the monster, not chosen by us. It *chose* this scenario. The monster intends its monstrosity. It means to do the wrong thing, and its wrongs can push us into a corner where the only way out, solely because of the monster’s choices, is to return fire. That is also its choice. The tactics may indeed be monstrous, but the options were selected by it.

    So *does* it make us monsters? No. Not automatically. Could it?

    Do not answer a fool according to his folly, or you yourself will be just like him. Proverbs 26:4

    Answer a fool according to his folly, or he will be wise in his own eyes. Proverbs 26:5

    One says don’t, and one says do, so we can’t say that answering back in kind is always wrong. One has an outcome that undermines the fool, and one an outcome that undermines you. Either could result, but both say ‘according to his folly’. The according to his folly part does not inevitably bring about our transformation into one of his kind.

    When you pick up the gun, answer “yes” to “We’re doing this?” you are not doing the same thing. You are not choosing to dominate another unprovoked, to wantonly oppress an innocent. You are engaged in justice – the freeing of the innocent (innocent in this situation) from the harasser, using the very methods it chose to employ, arguably the very methods it believes are fair.

    If, while you do this, you feel satisfaction, rather than empathy for the monster you’re destroying so that it will not destroy you and your companions, you are still not a monster. Justice feels right in its execution. If you do feel empathy for a screaming being as you blow its arms off because you’re a terrible shot, that does not mean that you have done the wrong thing, only a that you have done a horrifying, but still necessary one.

    If, after you do this, you decide to grab some kids off the street and do to them what was about to be done to you? Then you’ve become a monster too. *That’s* what makes you the monster, your intent.

    • Nathan September 15, 2017 at 9:28 am #

      I totally agree intent matters.

      For me personally, however, I’m not sure using the weapons of the ‘monster’, even in service of what we may perceive as ‘justice’ is a universally defensible theology.

      But. I do understand where you’re coming from; even if I don’t quite share your conclusions.

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