Minisode 74: The Godfather Part II

27 Nov

S&S Sunday The Godfather Part II 1

In this minisode, Tyler and Josh discuss Francis Ford Coppola’s The Godfather Part II, winner of Best Picture for 1974.

2 Responses to “Minisode 74: The Godfather Part II”

  1. Tony December 13, 2015 at 7:37 am #

    Worth noting with the Hackman ‘snub’ that although academy branch members get up to five picks at the nomination stage only one vote (at most) counts when they tally the votes. So, for example if Tyler was a Golden Globe or Bafta voter and listed Nicholson, Pacino, Hoffman, Hackman and Finney as his 5 best actor nominees a vote would go to each of them and the final nominations would reflect what members thought were the 5 best achievements of the year. However, if he was an Oscar voter and that was his preferential order only his vote for Nicholson would count. Many Oscar voters may well have listed Hackman on their ballots but he obviously didn’t get enough #1 votes (or places above the actual nominees) to get in. The strange Oscar voting system may go some way to explaining many of the snubs/surprises each year when for example a Paul Giammati (Sideways), Tom Hanks (Captain Phillips), Emma Thompson (Saving Mr. Banks), Scarlett Johansson (Lost in Translation), About Schmidt (screenplay), Fargo (score), Close Encounters (picture), Gone girl (screenplay) appear on most of the pre-cursor awards nominations (where they usually get 5 picks that count) then suddenly go AWOL come Oscar time and you get a surprise like Laura Dern last year or Clint Eastwood for Million Dollar Baby.

    • Tony December 15, 2015 at 12:55 am #

      As well as the one vote (that counts at most) preferential voting system, actors also have to contend with only their highest voted performance in a category counting (can’t be double nominated within a category as say a John Williams has often achieved in original score). So, far example possible that the highly nominated awards season performances of Alicia Vikander could lead to a complete snub through a combination of not getting enough higher placed votes and vote splitting – a supporting actress split for her between the Danish Girl and Ex Machina and a leading actress/supporting actress split for the Danish Girl (same issue could effect Rooney Mara). Or she may get in for leading and supporting and join the small group of actors/actresses to be double nominated in the same year.

      Voting system may also explain something like the complete snub of something like Zodiac in 2007 (which was expected to at least get a screenplay nod) where clear from the critic’s top 10’s of the year that people who loved the movie liked No Country For Old Men and There Will Be Blood even more. They both ended up with lots of nominations including picture and director and Zodiac ends up with nothing.

      Bringing it back to Hackman and ’74, quite possible he missed out because he was appealing to the same fans of Godfather 2, Chinatown and Lenny and they preferred the performances of Pacino, Nicholson and Hoffman whilst Carney and Finney’s performances and film’s appealed to a different demographic within the acting branch of the academy.

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