In this minisode, Tyler and Josh discuss Tyler’s fifth favorite film of all time, Sidney Lumet’s 12 Angry Men.
Great discussion guys. The cinematographic note about the camera, Fonda’s not-entirely-goodness, and actually bringing up the question of guilty-free versus wrongfully-convicted were all very thought provoking.
Also enjoyed the sidebar about non-police-investigators. Funny and good points. I will point out that on the show Elementary at least they did go through an arc where the police become more and more confident in his crime-solving abilities (although the trust his moral judgment less and less).
An antidote to the “how many murders get solved by non-police?” question could be to NOT HAVE EVERY EPISODE OF A DETECTIVE SHOW INVOLVE A DEATH. It seems like there are a lot of fascinating stories to be told about other kinds of crimes (or just mysteries), and yet for some reason you need a body count every episode of these things. I just read the Sherlock Holmes stories and while I don’t know the percentages there are definitely a lot with no murder in them.
One of my best friends and one of our neighbors is a cop. It’s not a reflection on them but I generally do not trust cops either. I’m a fan of this movie and have seen it at least twice. I had not considered the complexity of the Fonda character. My favorite aspects of the film are what is has to say about human nature and that as you mention people are not always what they seem, about judgement justice, and about the baggage we all bring into any given situation.
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