An Open Letter to Christian Filmmakers, by Joe Zaragoza

20 Feb


I just got out of seeing the movie Old Fashioned. Here are some things I noticed: It was a Monday morning and the theater was packed. The movie was getting laughs from the audience throughout. When the movie ended, people applauded it. Also, as I was leaving, an older woman sitting in my aisle with her husband asked me, “Wasn’t that a wonderful movie?” while I heard another person say, “There needs to be more movies like this.” Now, if this is your audience, if this is who you are making movies for, then good job! You guys are succeeding. Not just Old Fashioned, but all Christian films. I remember leaving God’s Not Dead and seeing people genuinely excited about it, pulling out their cell phones, I’m guessing to text people, “God’s Not Dead” as the movie instructs, and then myself receiving the text “God’s Not Dead!” for several weeks after that from random Christian friends. You have an audience. Christians are going to your movies and they are going to continue to go to your movies.

Here’s the problem: They are the only people going to your movies. I feel as Christian filmmakers you have to do more, you have to do better. Again, if your goal is to get Christians and ONLY Christians in those seats, then I would say ignore the rest of this message, but I have an inkling suspicion that this isn’t really what you want, nor should it be. If you are a Christian trying to spread the gospel- if you are lucky enough to be given hundreds of thousands of dollars, even a few million to get a movie on screens all across the country- I would say you have an obligation to make sure more people hear your message. But the movies you’re making aren’t doing it. I admit, I am not a filmmaker. I have no clue how hard it is to actually make a movie. I am not a good writer as you can no doubt tell by what you have already read and will see as you continue to read, but I am a fan of film. A big fan. Been watching them all my life. I am such a fan that I listen to directors’ commentaries when I watch a movie I like, listen to podcasts with interviews with filmmakers and movie critics, read articles and blog posts about how impossible it is to get a movie made. So I have an idea of how lucky you guys are to get this opportunity. You Christian filmmakers are so lucky to have a Christian production company to finance your films, and to get the opportunity to get your movies advertised, and to get them played in major cinemas, but if the only people going are the Christians who are already convinced they will like it, if the only people who are going are the people who already agree with your message, then you are failing. Our job is to spread the Gospel; to tell others of the risen Messiah to everyone, not just to other Christians. Jesus said in Luke:

“The healthy don’t need a doctor, but the sick do. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.”

What you guys are doing at the moment is making films for the righteous not for the unrighteous. You are making them for the healthy not for the sick. You have a platform to give a message and you are only talking to Christians! You have to do better. You have to make movies that other people can relate to. That other people will watch. So then what? Drugs? Sex? Bad language? Graphic violence? Maybe… well, maybe not, but you don’t need to have those things in your movies in order to make a good film. So I made a list of what you can do to improve your films, so that you can actually make a work of art worthy of inviting other people. Let’s get started:

1. Focus On The Story First

You are sacrificing your movie in order to make your message loud and clear. Your audience isn’t stupid. We can get your message, even if you use subtlety and nuance. In your Christian films, you guys hit your audience over the head with your message like a sledge hammer. Again, write a good story first, and the message will come out of it. We don’t need to be told what to think; we can get there ourselves.

Also, challenge your audience. If there is a problem within our church family, Christian culture, something we struggle with or something we don’t even realize is a problem, talk about that. All Christian films do is cheer about how great we are and how wrong everyone else is. Make us think! Make us question the way we’ve been doing things. This is what Christians need and it’s what gets audiences to watch a movie.

2. Stop Making Prosperity Gospel Movies

Christians criticize preachers like Joel Osteen because of his prosperity gospel. He preaches that if you become a Christian you’ll become rich, if you follow Jesus only good things will happen to you, if you go to church everything in your life will work out. We disagree with this because we know things don’t always work out well for Christians. We still struggle with finances, with our marriages, with temptation. Jesus said “If they persecuted me, they will persecute you.” Becoming a Christian doesn’t mean things are going to work out for us, it just means we have a savior who will help us through our troubles. But your movies seem to echo Joel Osteen’s message. In Fireproof, the couple’s marriage ended stronger and better than ever and the Kirk Cameron character changed his wicked ways quite easily. In Courageous, the lead character ends up becoming a great father and a hero. His friend is asked to lie about a shipment for his company and if he doesn’t he’ll get fired. He then tells his boss he can’t do it because it would be wrong, and it turns out it was a test, which he passed and is then promoted. In God’s Not Dead, the kid ends up proving his professor hated God and that’s why he was an atheist. And convincing his entire class as they stood and proclaimed “God’s Not Dead!” Anyway, your message is that if you follow the gospel you will win and good things will happen. Why don’t you challenge that?

For example, let’s say that, in the movie Courageous, instead of the guy getting promoted for doing the right thing, it wasn’t a test and he gets fired. He goes home angry at God wondering why He would give him this great job only to take it away. Sort of reminds you of the widow whom Elijah was staying with after her son died (spoilers for 1 Kings), or Martha angry at Jesus after her brother Lazarus died. BOOM! You got Biblical parallels right there! So in anger he asks his friends why God would do this; his friends respond, “I don’t know what to say. I’m really sorry, but we’re here for you. Whatever you need, how ever we can help we’ll be here for you. You’re not alone. We’ll help you find a job, we can help through in any way we can. God is here with you, he is weeping with you. He has not forsaken you.” Now, isn’t that more encouraging?

Or let’s take God’s Not Dead. What if, at the end, after the last debate the professor asks, “Well, that’s it. You made your arguments, you showed us your presentation. Who’s convinced? How many people now believe that God’s not dead.” In a smug and arrogant voice, and no one raises their hand. He convinces no one… except one: the Chinese exchange student. He was convinced and maybe even thinks about reading the Bible. Sure, the lead character now has to work hard and ace all his papers and all his tests just to get a C, which will mess with his grade point average. That really sucks, but he was able to bring one person to the Lord. He brought a soul to Christ, something much more important in the long run. Again, I’m not a writer, but you can work with that.

All I’m saying is just stop making movies about the prosperity gospel. Challenge your audience. Not everyone gets converted, not every Christian has to win. Bad things happen to Christians for being Christian; for doing the Christian thing. The lesson we need to learn is that we have God, and our Church behind us helping us through. Sometimes we suffer for our faith. I know it’s too late to change those movies now, but think about what you could have done and do better next time.

3. Lay off the atheists

Seriously, man, you guys are way too hard on those who don’t believe in God or those who are not religious. I have many non-Christian friends and they are good, decent, hard-working, supportive, ethical, good-moral-having folks. They don’t roll their eyes when I talk about God, they don’t tell me to just have sex with everyone I can. They are not the people in your movies. Sure, they do have different moral standards, but that doesn’t make them bad people. There are the Christopher Hitchens and Dawkins types and their supporters who are really condescending about our faith, but not every person who isn’t a Christian is like that. We need to remember we’re not better because we’re Christian, we’re the same and that’s why we are Christian. Which brings me to my next point…

4. I Want My Christian Characters Flawed Like Me

We are also human beings who screw up. Sometimes we’re wrong in how we think. Sometimes we are overly judgmental. Sure, sometimes Christian movies show bad Christians and overly uptight Christians, but that only serves to show has awesome our protagonist is. How can I relate to that? How can I relate to a character that is always right and good? Wouldn’t it be refreshing if we saw a movie in which a non-Christian is a good person and supportive and perhaps is better than our protagonist and our lead is convicted by that? Wouldn’t that show us not just that we can be wrong sometimes, but also that we shouldn’t be so arrogant and prideful? It seems that in Old Fashioned the gal spent the whole movie trying to prove that she was good enough to date our guy. What if instead he is really judgmental of her and makes her feel small and, in the end she says, “Listen, I’m not perfect, but I’m trying to be better. You don’t have to make me feel bad because I’m not ‘as good as you’. The fact is you’re afraid of getting close to me and truth be told you could use a lot of growing up! Here I am trying to prove I’m good enough, but how about you prove to me that you deserve a real Godly relationship. Be a man and grow some humility, jerk!” POW!!! She showed him. Again, flawed characters are way more relatable, more realistic and give them the chance to grow as people.

5. Learn To Make Good Movies

Okay, one more thing, that I hope isn’t taken the wrong way. Remember, I am doing this from a place of love and encouragement to help you… Maybe some of these Christian actors should take an acting class? Perhaps go to a writing workshop and learn about story structure? Maybe if you have the time, study film in school since you are making films? A really good idea is to look up some lists of the most important movies in cinema history, or some of the best movies of all time and just watch a ton of them. You are filmmakers, therefore you theoretically love film. You have to… if you didn’t, you wouldn’t be making movies. So spend time watching movies. Learn to edit down your movies (says the guy who’s on the fourth page of a rambling blog post). There’s no reason why a romance movie should be two hours long (I’m looking at you, Old Fashioned). Something what adds to movies is tightening up your scripts. Cut the fat, maybe some story lines shouldn’t be told in order to benefit the rest of the movie. Director Cameron Crowe once said that you know you’re a real director when you cut a scene you love in order to make your movie better. When we are watching a movie we are transported into it. We feel what the characters feel, we worry about what the characters worry about, we hope for things to happen and are disappointed when they don’t. We get lost in a movie we love, but when a movie is too long, when there’s bad acting, when something happens that has no motivation, it takes us out of the film. A well-made, well-acted, well-written film keeps us engaged. These are all things you are capable of! Take classes, work with talented people, watch good movies, and become better filmmakers.

6. Be More Realistic

People swear in real life, people do drugs, people have sex, people do things that are morally wrong. I’m not saying you have to show this stuff, but don’t be afraid of it. Roger Ebert was asked about a bad review he had given the movie Blue Velvet. In the film, a female character is sexually mistreated on screen, and he could see how uncomfortable she was as an actress playing the role and not as her character on screen. He said it made him cringe. He said, “Drama holds a mirror up to life, but needn’t reproduce it.” You can learn two things from that quote: a good filmmaker can depict real life without showing it exactly, but it needs to reflect real life also. Sort of like in the movie Jaws: the shark was much scarier when we couldn’t see it. I mean, look at all the old black and white films of the 30’s and 40’s; there’s some real bad stuff going on, but they never showed anything. It was implied, it was suggested, but never shown. In Psycho, Janet Leigh’s character was stabbed to death in the shower. It was violent and scary, but we never saw any nudity, we never saw the knife going in, we never saw any blood, until the end when it slowly circled the drain. That scene was really effective because of how it was shot and how little it showed. You probably won’t be making a horror movie in which people get stabbed to death on screen, but my point is you can show sinful behavior without showing it actually happening. Hold a mirror up to real life, but don’t reproduce it.

Do yourself a favor; watch These Amazing Shadows on Netflix right now. Rent or buy the documentary Life Itself right now. Two documentaries about people who love film. Watch The Graduate, watch The Godfather, There Will Be Blood, Double Indemnity, Sunset Boulevard, Battleship Potemkin. Watch those movies, and then watch yours. What do they do that you don’t? Why do people love those movies, but not yours? If you are a fan of film- which you have to be in order to be a filmmaker- find out how to make a good movie by watching good movies. Don’t copy them, but let them inspire you. If on the other hand you don’t like movies, if you are just using film as a platform to spread a message and not because you love doing it, then you have no business making movies. Movies are art, just like painting or sculpting, and if you don’t love the art of film then you’ve failed before you even started. But again, you do love film. That’s why you are making movies, right? Learn how to make a good movie by watching good movies.

We want you to make movies, but we want you to make movies that can speak to everyone, not just Christians. We want you to challenge Christians, and make us think. We want you to do better because we know you can. You have an amazing opportunity to spread the Gospel and you’re squandering it by making movies that just make Christians feel good about themselves. You don’t have to stop making the kind of movies you’re making now. Like I mentioned before, there is a Christian audience that just want to see feel-good moral tales to take their families to. Make those movies too. But you haven’t been making movies, you’ve been making messages. Fireproof, Courageous, God’s Not Dead, A Matter of Faith, Do You Believe?, etc. You are trying to teach with your movies, but no one’s going to learn if we already know the answers. You have such an amazing platform and you’re wasting it. Please, do better. You can do it, you’ve just got to try. If you continue on the path you’re on, your movies aren’t going to help anyone. You were given millions of dollars and you might as well make a cardboard sign that says, “We’re right and everyone else is wrong!” because that’s the message your movies are sending. You can do better than that!

22 Responses to “An Open Letter to Christian Filmmakers, by Joe Zaragoza”

  1. Thomas Midena February 20, 2015 at 10:43 pm #

    Agree with your line of thinking. Have you seen Calvary? A truly excellent Christianity-themed film which delves into very deep themes.

    • Joe Zaragoza February 21, 2015 at 9:11 am #

      I literally just watched Calvary last night. I very much enjoyed it and I think films like that go to show that it takes secular films to show real struggle, what real faith has to endure. I do regret mentioning some improvements that I have seen in some of these movies, perhaps discussing the positives to show I don’t just hate everything about Christian movies, but I do hope someone Christian filmmaker reads it and is motivated to change and doesn’t get offended instead.

      • yankeegospelgirl February 21, 2015 at 12:05 pm #

        Calvary had some isolated great moments, but it was too disjointed for my taste. I also question the central theological conceit of the thing. Is it really proper to think of a non-divine innocent human as the sacrificial lamb for a sin he didn’t commit? I also find speechifying villains very off-putting, so that kind of took me out of the climax.

  2. Philip February 21, 2015 at 5:00 am #

    Great article, really comes from the heart. Not cool how you spoiled I Kings, though 😉

    • Joe Zaragoza February 22, 2015 at 11:36 pm #

      Yeah, sorry about that, I figured it’s been about 2,000 years, so everyone should have seen it by now, right? 😉 thanks for the kind words.

  3. yankeegospelgirl February 21, 2015 at 9:40 am #

    Some good ideas here, but if you want it to come over a bit more professionally, you might want to clean up some of the spelling/apostrophe issues. Just a friendly word. 🙂

    I also liked some of your examples of good film, but speaking as a devoted film buff, I’m not sure they were the best for your purpose. I think that all else being equal (writing, acting, etc.) films where the makers care about their characters and allow at least a trickle of light to penetrate are objectively greater than pure noir. And I’m not too enamored of films like The Graduate. Unpleasant people doing sordid sexual stuff, and… what was the point again? Oh right, something about corruption and generational divides and disillusioned 60s youth, or… something. I mean, yawn. Rebel Without a Cause was another of those “disillusioned youth” films that was just weirdly melodramatic and unpleasant, but thought it was clever at the time, so it’s gotten “classic” status slapped onto it.

    I’m just saying that self-consciously “cool” or “artistic” films may not be all they’re cracked up to be either upon closer inspection. But overall, some nice points made here.

    • Joe Zaragoza February 22, 2015 at 11:35 pm #

      Thanks for the heads up on the spelling and grammar stuff. As I mentioned in the article, I’m not too good with that stuff.

      I picked those films because they are seen as classics and also because they are films that I enjoy. I’m sure if we all get together to find a list of five films that can be used as examples of excellent works of art we’d be talking for a very long time. Also, when I mentioned those films I was giving them examples of good writing, acting, editing, etc., which those movies have. But you do make a good point anyway. Even if they are great works of art I should perhaps pick a few flicks that actually have characters show some level of growth and virtue by the end that we my point could be made more solidly. “Your characters should have more growth life in this film…” Or “Show flawed characters that fail yet don’t give up, like in this other film…” Perhaps my point could have been made more clear if I had given a lite of movies that show what’s missing from Christian film,mr ather than just a list of good movies.

      Thanks for the comment 🙂

      • yankeegospelgirl February 23, 2015 at 1:20 pm #

        Well, off the top of my head, I would say:

        Chariots of Fire
        Fiddler On the Roof
        On the Waterfront
        High Noon

        would all qualify as bona fide classics and uplifting.

  4. Brandi Roberts February 21, 2015 at 10:15 am #

    You basically say everything I’m thinking when I finish watching a Christian movie. Thank you for your honesty and I hope you give film makers something to think about, and encourage them to create movies that will really move all of us, Christian or not, to seek after God.

  5. Winton Allan Hancock Jr. February 22, 2015 at 5:30 pm #

    So many good insights about this article; I agree with atleast most of them. The main plot to “God Is Not Dead” was clever and terrific, but the movie’s subplots were absolutely terrible, bottomed-out by 100 percent of that class that said they believed in God. As a State University of NY graduate (Onondaga CC), realistically in a secular college you might get 50-60 percent who believe in some sort of god – 80 is really pushing it to an extreme. I was so disappointed in my own church and pastor who thought it was a great movie – maybe to us a Christians it is, but if it doesn’t crossover and reach the unchurched and those heading for Hell, then it merely exploits Christians of their money. I haven’t seen “Old Fashioned” yet – I hate the title simply because those who need to see it, won’t see it because the movie’s name is a turn-off. And though the Kendrick Brothers paved new possibilities for Christian Movies, I feel they have “peaked” with their potential, and it appears they’re only going to make church teaching movies as I see it. I’m polishing up a Faith-Based Fantasy-Action Allegory Script, which has taken years to write and re-write, with lots of criticism and rejection, but atleast this one Christian writer is trying to cross-over and tap into mainstream audiences with a relate-able but truthful Gospel that true Christians should understand.

  6. yankeegospelgirl February 23, 2015 at 1:24 pm #

    Here’s an idea I haven’t seen any Christian conservative filmmaker try yet: A pro-life drama with a crime/thriller spin. Gimme Shelter did a great job from the teen mother’s side, but what about a story from a doctor’s side? Say a young doctor who’s being groomed into the abortion industry and has a crisis of conscience? That could be grim but really good.

  7. Brenden February 24, 2015 at 8:36 am #

    Excellent thoughts here, bruh.

    Something I can’t help but wonder, though (and it’s a long train of thought, so bear with me):

    Fact: Christians will see Christian movies because Christian filmmakers are making them for Christians.

    Fact: Some Christian movies (like GOD’S NOT DEAD) will alienate the non-Christian (via villainization of a non-Christian character, echoing your point) and will therefore alienate the non-Christian audience member.

    Fact: Other Christian movies (like OLD FASHIONED, which I thought is a breakthrough in the Christian film genre) depict non-Christians in a realistic manner (again, echoing your previous thoughts, Joe) that go from not believing to at least embracing. (Maybe a conversation on whether or not Amber was converted through marrying Clay can be held at another time).

    Problem (maybe supposition): Non-Christian movie-goers will likely pass on seeing the better Christian movies because of the publicized faith barrier.

    Solution: Christians start going with (or at least inviting) non-Christians to watch the better Christian movies within the context of a pre-existing relationship (i.e. friends, family, or dating, whatever) and actually using them as seed-planters.

    Because movies don’t evangelize; people do. And movies don’t convert people; God does.

    Just had to get that out there. I appreciate these words, Joe (and Philip for sharing them my way).


    P.S. Amen to FIDDLER ON THE ROOF. So much Tradition!

  8. Jabir Fort February 24, 2015 at 1:54 pm #

    As I read your blog I’m inclined to agree but then I disagree with a portion of your post also. It seems that you are speaking mostly about movies made by Christian film companies for a Christian audience not about movies made by film makers that are Christians for a mixed or secular audience. There is a big difference when money is involved. If I want to make films without making money then maybe your suggestions would work but when scripts are green lite or films earn distribution its because some executive believes it will make money. If the audience was happy with the movies you listed, then what is the problem? Many of these movies are produced on shoestring budgets and many actors are volunteers, so with that comes flaws. But many of these films still impress enough to receive monetary backing by a large studio and why? Because they know their audience and how much can be made. Good movies cost money and require risk that many “Christian Studios” aren’t willing to take. Think about this, why do Christians watch secular films? For the fantasy and entertainment! This is also the same reason they watch Christian films. Because we see so much evil everyday and it’s good to see something good happen every once in awhile. Even if it’s fantasy on a screen! If you want real life, just continue to live and you will most surely find it around every corner. Tyler Perry makes movies like you listed above, Temptation, to name one that has all your points. But much of the Christian community shuns his movies because of this but because the secular community embraces him he has big studio backing with the budget to match. Which means he can take risk! The day Sony or any studio gives Affrim studios $250 million and say make me a Christian ethics movie is the day when I will feel the we can now talk about how equal opportunity was afforded and they failed to produce.

    • Joe February 25, 2015 at 12:04 am #

      You make a lot of great points, Jabir. I would say that, yes, a lot of secular movies have huge budgets, and Christian movies are all basically independent movies working with a shoe string budget. But here’s the thing, indie filmmakers still make really incredible movies, even with a really low budget, so the problem they have is no one will see them. They can get the films made, just not seen. Along with a budget they also need money for advertising, and they just don’t have it. So then, Christian films don’t need a huge budget to make good movies, they just need talent. As for the other issue they have the advantage of getting their movies seen simply because they have distribution companies like Pure Flix to back them and they have a built in audience, us Christians.

      I mentioned in the blog (although just in passing) they don’t need to stop making the kinds of movies they’re making now. There’s an audience for them, but my point was that Christians have a higher obligation than just making money, they have to speak to the masses. Of course there will be people who will never consider watching a Christian movie simply because it’s Christian, but we don’t worry about them, we do it for those we can reach, for those who will listen. Money can’t be the main goal, ministry should be the number one priority.

      Thanks for you comments! We need to keep the conversation going. Maybe I’m not 100% on the money (maybe not even 70%), but the more we keep talking about it the more people will listen and the closer we’ll all get to figuring out a solution :).

      • yankeegospelgirl February 25, 2015 at 2:12 pm #

        I think Catholic filmmakers tend to make higher quality movies on the whole than evangelical filmmakers. This is probably because Catholics are willing to be more flexible in who they work with and mingle with more mainstream professionals to sharpen their skills. Catholics are also content to tell a good story without necessarily forcing a message down the viewer’s throat. This has been my experience anyway. Thoughts?

        • Joe February 25, 2015 at 7:33 pm #

          Well, I’m not really sure what Catholic movies are? I know that there are Catholics who make movies, and movies about Catholics, but are there specifically movies by Catholic filmmakers about their own faith? The one thing I do sort of understand is that many Catholics do tend to set themselves apart from the Catholic Church in many ways. Some tend to ignore what the Pope might say or what the major Catholic doctrine might be. They take a stance such as, “My faith is personal, and what I believe is what I believe and it has nothing to do with what some guy says simply because he’s a priest or a bishop or even a Pope.” I’ve heard this from many a Catholic person. I wonder if this gives them the elbow room to work out different ideas philosophies where in our Christian faith we tend to be more conservative and maybe more traditional.

          • yankeegospelgirl February 26, 2015 at 6:19 pm #

            I meant movies by Catholics that are well-made and have an uplifting message, where faith may or may not play a prominent role. For example, Bella was made by Eduardo Verastegui’s Catholic film-making company, which he started expressly so that he could work in projects he believed in rather than taking the sometimes unsavory work he was offered in Hollywood. But Catholicism per se didn’t play a major role in the story, it just informed the over-arching worldview. However, even a movie like For Greater Glory, which is all about the Catholic faith, is made with very high production standards. (I think it was Peter O’Toole’s last performance, if I’m not mistaken.)

  9. lauren February 24, 2015 at 2:34 pm #

    Check out this new christian film. I believe it breaks out of the normal of christian movies. the movie is now on dvd at walmart.

    Here is the trailer link:

  10. Brian February 24, 2015 at 3:32 pm #

    Great article. Better than most on this topic. As a Christian Filmmaker I agree with your statement that we need to reach the non-Christians. The most popular films in our genre do not do this. Both types of films are needed. “Some will be preachers, some will be teachers.”

    The evangelical films are just as important as films that may bridge the gap between secular and non-secular audiences. My new film SINKING SAND (A loving wife murders a blackmailer to protect her husband’s flourishing law career, only to have him prosecute another woman for her crime) is such a film to attract both audiences.

    Finances are a good reason why most Christian films don’t rise to the Hollywood level. As I’m sure you can understand. A little inside baseball – The larger Christian distributors (Pure Flix as an example) do not want the bridge films, they only seem to want the Evangelical. They have there place and feel they are answering God’s call. Wont argue with that. It would just be nice if we had a large distributor that gets just as excited about a bridge film.

    Thanks again for the well thought out article, it’s nice to hear from our audience.

  11. Doc Suggs February 24, 2015 at 4:17 pm #

    The best Christian movies that I have seen are not labeled as Christian movies. LOCAL HERO, for example, is the ideal portrait of a Christian community; the church is at its heart and the people share and love but the audience is not beaten over the head with any message because the story is so well told. The same is true of Bergman’s THE SEVENTH SEAL. His knight prays to God asking to be shown God’s intention for man, and he complains that God is silent, but God shows him the answer. SUPERNATURAL has wonderful moments – like “Dark Side of the Moon” where the boys meet Jesse, the gardener from Gethsemene. Directors of Christian movies lose sight of what they are after too often. Faith is better seen through peripheral vision. Doc

  12. fthinking February 25, 2015 at 9:58 pm #

    Christians are not more or less righteous than non-religionists, and we [the others] are not sinners looking for redemption. A person living outside of your insular view of God doesn’t necessarily hate God. An atheist is not wrapped up in hate over something of which he does not believe.

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